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BitOneZero

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1968 book "War and Peace in the Global Village" by Canadian Professor Marshall McLuhan - #WWWOpera #FinWakeIndraNet

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  • Beehaw on Lemmy: The long-term conundrum of staying here

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  • Has anyone looked at kbin to see what is different in terms of moderation?

    Kbin is a newer app, but it isn't any further along than Lemmy in terms of moderation tools. It is only now just getting an API to allow any kind of automation tools. For the past month spam has been a problem on the main kbin instance and the developer has openly said he hasn't been able to keep up with it.

  • Beehaw on Lemmy: The long-term conundrum of staying here

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  • I’m angry. Everywhere I go on the internet, I encounter some form of prejudice and hate.

    What Cambridge Analytica unleashed 10 years ago spread like second-hand smoke to all the platforms and society at large, and it works. There are copycats all over the place now and the whole world has become more hostile. Professional psychologists / psychiatrists endorsing these media techniques was one of the worst things to happen to humanity. The damage may take centuries to heal.

    “Chaos and disruption, I later learned, are central tenets of Bannon's animating ideology. Before catalyzing America's dharmic rebalancing, his movement would first need to instill chaos through society so that a new order could emerge. He was an avid reader of a computer scientist and armchair philosopher who goes by the name Mencius Moldbug, a hero of the alt-right who writes long-winded essays attacking democracy and virtually everything about how modern societies are ordered. Moldbug’s views on truth influenced Bannon, and what Cambridge Analytica would become. Moldbug has written that “nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth,” and Bannon embraced this. “Anyone can believe in the truth,” Moldbug writes, “to believe in nonsense is an unforgettable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.” ― Christopher Wylie, Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America

  • Beehaw on Lemmy: The long-term conundrum of staying here

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  • Beehaw on Lemmy: The long-term conundrum of staying here

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  • the amount of changes in 3 months Lemmy developers managed to do is impressive to say the least.

    I'm trying to be nice, but two full time paid people did not manage to do much in 3 months if you mean May, June, and July regarding the Reddit API change period. It seems Rust is their main focus and in the middle of all this they decided to start a new front-end in Rust. When dozens of new front-ends were being developed by eager newcomers, including replacements like Photon that even have admin and moderation interfaces.

    I’m not sure if people checked the posts where Beehaw listed features and tools they want and a lot of them are super tailored to Beehaw vision which is not in step with federated Lemmy as a whole.

    I've checked their listed features and tools, and I have no idea what you are talking about. They are features that Lemmy needs. What exactly do you mean that Beehaw is "super tailored"?

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  • kbin is the closest application to Lemmy, and it does have tags. When you create a post you can pick tags and you can browse by tag: https://kbin.social/tag/kbin

    I'm assuming this is done for integration with other ActivePub apps

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    The Beehaw project is entering some significant challenges

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  • Your entirely reply seems to dismiss the entire purpose of an API.

    An API is a way to allow other developers to work almost entirely independent, and even create compatible servers with wildly different implementation - while still servicing clients.

    You seem to be advocating a model that predates API, back in the 1980's or something. As right now kbin users are having to resort to scraping content off off HTML pages as a form of API.

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  • I don’t think an API isn’t the thing that matters here.

    because of the negatives in your statement, it isn't clear what you mean.

    I think the API is why June 2023 there was a huge surge of users coming to Beehaw and Lemmy platform. There were tons of forum software out there, and even kbin, but Lemmy took off because it had an API

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  • Reddit grew to a point that the focus became constant refreshes and the most recent 6 hours of postings... and reposts became the normal means of revisiting a topic. And when a topic gets more than 1500 comments, a repost resets that. It's just a machine that rolls the clock constantly in favor of "new".

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  • Lemmy and Kbin both lack a lot in moderation and anti-spam measures. Both apps are taking about having features to specifically throttle new local members. And anti-spam in terms of server to server doesn't really exist at all.

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  • Beehaw has been online for over 18 months, it was well established when there were only 30 Lemmy servers and then Reddit API change came along in May... the sign-up page and application process couldn't even cope with hundreds of users per day.

    Then 1000 new instance servers went online in just a couple months where your 18-month established presence was suddenly getting all kinds of server to server action.

    You have been on the front-line of a lot of people motivated by hate of Reddit. Not love of Beehaw.

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  • Everyone wants a fork. Nobody wants to be the fork.

    Rust and ORM makes changes incredibly slow and even recent editions like sanitizing for JavaScript exploits have been buggy.

    We need a small group of motivated and skilled developers to get together and decide “we’re doing this”, and actually go beyond announcing an empty Git repo.

    Lemmy had one major thing that kbin and other apps did not have in 2023... a working API. And that happened to be what Reddit decided to start charging for in May. Kbin is right now adding an API, but it isn't compatible with Lemmy. Lemmy could also use a streamlined API, there is opportunity right now to make a combined Lemmy and kbin API since federation normalizes a lot of the features between the two. I hope people see this opportunity that is open right now and the one big strength.

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  • All that being said, Lemmy (the software that Beehaw runs on) development is incredibly slow and is riddled with problems

    The developers of Lemmy have been running it on the Internet for over 4.5 years, but they only had a few thousands posts in 4 years... it lacks moderation (and spam) tools and it drops and alters data silently that shows they really don't use it or focus on the data.

    kbin is newer, but it is only now starting to have an API - so Lemmy has attracted all the app developers because of API - and kbin also struggles with moderation and spam.

    we may want to consider leaving the Fediverse for another software platform that does NOT include ActivityPub.

    I can entirely understand that. Reinventing the wheel of basic forum features ties up a lot of kbin and lemmy development - and federation is the wild west. People can participate in your forum without having the context or understanding, or worse, to do attacks at an entire server to server level - manipulating votes and having wildly different policies.

    Thank you for sharing your thinking.

  • Refusing TypeScript is a signal that you don't care about code quality

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  • I'd say the debate about using a strongly typed relational database and ORM is probably more of an impact on end-user turn around than typed language.

  • I'm so tired of the current state of the internet

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  • Outside of the internet, I ask this question.

    I find people think the Internet and the "real world" are two different things. I don't find this to be true, and I've seen people I know well entirely change their personality after hours of being angry just because a telephone call rings and they are practiced at changing for it. Similarly, I witness people who change while driving an automobile compared to their normal domestic behavior. It's all part of the same person and acting like it isn't real is denial of a lot of human history of other media.

    All your points about homeless and and male identity crisis with mental health I find are true. And we clearly have the resources and information systems of connecting real people to real problems, one on one. But there hasn't really been a social movement of the Internet to make friends and use real identities - even when social media often started that way with local area-code BBS systems and users groups... and even LAN gaming.

    We need true social leaders who cross national boundaries and say the kind of things that were said during civil rights movements. Someone could start with doing a world-wide grieving over the pandemic deaths, we weren't allowed to visit the people who died at the hospital or in quarantine at home. It seems like an obvious social positive to have a funeral, every society has a funeral, why not a world wide one for a world-wide pandemic? But I keep watching as nobody organizes it.

  • I'm so tired of the current state of the internet

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  • What's changed is the ability to travel anywhere in the world and to project technology. It used to be a much slower process and oceans kept things split and at a much slower pace.

    It’s literally in our DNA to cooperate with each other.

    Is this supposed to be a scientific challenge to me? Like can you point to it? What I see is that forming gangs and armies is a human behavior characteristic. Did you here how Japanese people behaved in attacking all over the world, even Perl Harbor, in the 1920's to 1950? Did you know about the Crusades of people from Europe going all the way to the Middle East to attack each other over a book that says one part of land is more important than others? Are you aware of the complete destruction of cultures by the Spaniards when they came to the Americas?

    Your answer seems wildly simplistic.

    It’s literally in our DNA to cooperate with each other.

    Mutually Assured Destruction, MAD, seems to be in the human behavior once technology comes into the picture. Multiple human groups arrive at the same solution. China, USA, Russia - and form alliances around it. People barely protest it and vote for politicians in democratic (much like voting on Beehaw) methods to continue to support it. It is reality of how humans address their differences, with 45 minute delivery of nuclear destruction ready 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

  • I'm so tired of the current state of the internet

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  • Humanity really does not have a good history interacting with the Earth or with each other. People have to make a choice not to follow signals or create powerful leaders that don't get so competitive that they just start wrecking things on larger and larger scales.

    People have to choose to create something better and enjoy it. And many are deciding that peace and kindness is just 'too boring' for them. Take care.

  • Do you think it's worth building fediverse alternatives for transportation / distribution services?

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  • At some point I was searching for an open source car pooling service.

    I have been observing how much as a society we have been relying on route planning software.

    I think social factors for car pooling are far bigger than route planning. Getting a group of people on the same schedule with the same general destination would seem the problem most haven't taken on. The route planning would probably be better done with real-time data once you have identified people within reasonable distances willing to share transportation at a similar time.

    There are open source routing efforts: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing

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  • We have way more complex queries

    It isn't the complexity that is the problem. It is the open-ended nature. It lacks any WHERE clause that specifies which posts to get. It just kicks off join after join without restricting what it is looking for. It relies on the "LIMIT 50" that Lemmy restricts post listings too. Which worked OK in March 2023 when Lemmy was over 4 years old and still had very tiny amounts of data in all these tables that it joins, but once even a modest amount of data got point in the open-ended nature of the WHERE clause kept making it slower and slower as more and more content.

  • New 'old' Beehaw interface

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  • Why do I only see 19 posts in this community?

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  • Try without being logged in, incognito or private and see if it all appears. Almost always this problem comes about when someone fiddles with their language settings and Lemmy doesn't show the rest. Or some other setting like not showing already read posts. The apps really need to say "5xx posts not shown due to your preferences".