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  • I mean, go ahead and lie

    I'm not lying. It's there in the textbooks. There are many available for free online these days.

    Memorizing proofs

    No students are required to memorise proofs, only how to do proofs to begin with.

    Some chapters had token word problems

    They're not token problems - learning how to do word problems is a central core of Maths. They're thrown in often.

    Science class math comes with sniff tests that math class math doesn’t

    Not really. v=d/t, s=ut+½at², and similar equations are used often in teaching Maths (such as in non-linear graphs).

    because following rules is what you do

    That's right. We teach that if you follow all the rules you will always get the correct answer. Now witness adults on social media arguing about the answer to an order of operations question because they've forgotten the rules but refuse to admit that's even possible, and yet the rules are still there to be found in Maths textbooks now, same as they were then, still the same rules (despite some of them claiming the rules have been changed).

    algebraic notation is artificial.

    No it isn't.

    It’s manmade,

    The notation is, the Maths isn't.

    like the English language.

    It's not at all like language, any language.

    It’s a method of communicating ideas

    No, it's a method of calculating things, like rocket trajectories, etc. Got nothing to do with communication at all.

    except it was taught as a series of rules and procedures that you were supposed to memorize how to do without understanding the goal

    I can't help it if you yourself had a bad teacher, but look in the textbooks and that isn't how it's taught at all.

  • there’s more of the country than florida

    And there's more of the country falling behind the rest of the world in Maths than just Florida. It was all over the news, again, just a few weeks ago.

  • we approach teaching math to a nation full of hormonal teenagers as if they all want to grow up to be mathematicians

    No we don't.

    Starting in about the 7th grade they stop giving practical examples

    No we don't. Just check out some final exams to see plenty of them still included.

    if you’d explained it to me like that when I was 12

    Most teachers do, but some aren't very good, especially in the U.S. where it's not even required to have Maths qualifications to be a Maths teacher.

  • remember FOIL?

    A lot of adults don't, then proceed to argue about order of operations, having forgotten that Brackets have to be all expanded out before doing anything else at all.

    We don’t learn that math because it’s practical for adult life

    Yes we do. I use Maths every day, quite separate to the fact I teach it.

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  • For quick and dirty I’d probably just go with 3738 = 4040 -> 16% which is kinda close to 14% eh?

    Quick and dirty and accurate is 38=40-2. So 38x37=(40-2)x37=40x37-2x37=1480-74=1406

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  • I don’t think “two-dimensional number system” is something you’d hear mathematicians say

    I teach Maths and would've thought that was referring to the Cartesian plane.

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  • I’m gonna track down all my HS math teachers and punch each and every one of them in the mouth.

    Understandable if you're in the U.S., where Maths teachers don't have to have any Maths qualifications. Other places, where you do have to have Maths qualifications, we teach this.

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  • Where accuracy is important, since we almost always have a calculator with us now, that’s a no-brainer.

    Unfortunately most calculator apps were written by no-brainers who didn't check they had their Maths correct. If you need accuracy then get a name brand like Sharp or Casio.

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  • May as well just get out the calculator app to make sure

    Calculator apps get order of operations questions wrong because of programmers who were too lazy to check they had their Maths correct

    My point with those numbers is to just use a calculator.

    My point is avoid calculator apps like the plague. Use name brands like Sharp or Casio.

    Why 2nd guess anything?

    Guess what the programmer of your calculator app did 😂

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  • Wow, that’s nice! I like it

    It's called grouping. It's part of the curriculum here. Break the arithmetic into easily calculated groups.

    I just hope that you are not starting grading your students with the phrase “You’re absolutely right!”

    I'm not in the U.S. no. We still require teachers to be qualified here (Masters)! 😂

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  • There’s nothing wrong with calculators

    There is if you're talking about calculators on phones, etc. Almost all of them give wrong answers to order of operations questions because the programmer didn't bother checking their Maths first. It's so bad that the Windows calculator in Standard mode says 2+3x4=20. Stick to name brands like Sharp and Casio. They have money invested in the success of their products, so they take more care to make sure it's correct!

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  • Yes, 47% of 47 is certainly much easier to determine

    And your real life example of a 47% discount on a $47 item is... where exactly?

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  • Yeah, now calculate 6% of 36

    6x3x10 + 6x6, move decimal point 2 places to the left

    Replies itt make me believe that everyone on Lemmy is a chatbot

    I'm a Maths teacher :-)

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  • people forget that percent literally means per 100 or /100

    Yes

    the of is standing in for multiplication

    No. The M is for Multiplication. O is for Order, as in "to the order of", as in Exponents.

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  • 6/100 * 50 = 50/100 * 6

    =6x5 /10 (2 zeroes cancel out)

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  • I just think the symbol “%” algebraically means 0.01

    Warm. It actually means "per 100", hence the slash to represent a vinculum and the 2 zeroes. Of course in decimal that converts to 0.01.

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  • Yeah stuff like that really ain’t it

    Yes it is

    It works in a few use cases,

    It works in every case where you have multiplying and dividing, including fractions and percentages

    but is objectively wrong

    No it isn't

    detracts from understanding the topic properly

    Enhances it actually

    That’s why I teach percentages as the fractions they are.

    Sounds like you're only teaching as much as you understand. Try understanding more. Students love the tricks that make Maths easier, including this one.

  • Probably debatable. I think he was more addressing when you need to pull out a specific exception this is a cleaner way to do it. Saves having to rethrow the exception.

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  • That is why the narrow application of standards is another obstacle to learning

    No it isn't

    I was top of my math classes...

    Survivorship bias

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