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  • Are you trying to say she didn’t receive islamophobic hatred? Based on what?

    No I am saying the statement is very broad. Islamophobic covers from "I don't like my MP being a Muslim" to "I am going to murder all your family based on your religion". Both are illegal and wrong. Except the first will get you a slap on the wrist, and the second could easily lead to a prison sentence. Context matters.

  • You like to throw crappy replies, but don't actually add to a conversation. Is there something wrong with you?

  • You cannot have trickle down economics without having a bunch of paupers to drip money to.

  • Precisely this.

  • “Islamophobic hatred” is a very vague statement. The wording would be very pertinent to the strength of the argument.

  • Not strictly true when the far right in Israel are using the Rhetoric from Hamas and Hezbollah to give credit to their reasoning. What better reason to be a nasty bastard towards a group than knowing they also want to kill you. You cannot try to push that these groups are not your enemy. They even use this as an excuse to intimidate and thieve from the West Bank, who have a government that wants to resolve the problems and push Israel out of its land.

  • Where is the UK in a good position in the world. The US don't want to talk to us, Biden hates Brits. The EU are at the furthest point away they can be. Who exactly do we have strong ties with?

  • I really do not understand why he tried to push a 3 line whip. Even Sunak cannot force the hand of Israel. The UK's standing in the world is incredibly weak currently. Starmer had his own opinion, he should let other MPs have their own opinion also on such a divisive topic. At the end of the day the vote will achieve absolutely nothing except an outlook appearance.

  • I thought I was being ignored.

  • It is certainly part of the issue. Other factors you cannot ignore are the influence of Iran and Russia with the intent of adding financial pressure on the US. As well as the plan to destabilise the push Netanyahu from within Israel is under for his extreme views. This is why I say you cannot push all the blame on the Palestinians. Another side is that Hamas and Hezbollah have a very public agenda to murder all Jews in Israel. This leaves Israel with an open door too defend itself. And where there is war there is abuse.

  • "I cannot substantiate my point so I am not talking to you."

    A pretty pathetic response. Peddle your narrative elsewhere please.

  • Not looking like Israel is going to listen to anyone right now. Hamas only has one control point, and Iran is not looking like it is going to reign them back in. The only review will be from the people who are suffering due to their actions.

  • Do you expect anything else? This is why it needs an independent review. Israel's say so alone is not enough.

  • While Israel and Hamas pursue an agenda that pushes the annihilation of the other party, then there will never be peace. Israel was in the process of the population attacking that agenda. This attack from Hamas destroyed that. There needs to be a desire for peace. The west should not be funding Israel when it wants to hold onto any form of racial harassment.

  • That is not the same as stating what Hamas has done is not really as bad as it was because X y or Z.

    Israel has abused the situation without a doubt. Israel has ran apartheid policies for many years. Israel has been killing Palestinians and evicting them over a very long period. None of this excuses what Hamas did. I do not have a favourable opinion of either group tbf.

  • Israel holds the narrative due to the wrong Hamas did. There is not really a lot Hamas can complain about. Israel is never going to make any efforts to put Hamas in a good light. I really do not see your point.

  • This very much depends if Israel can prove Hamas were using it as a base. I have seen the videos with the tunnels they have released. That still does not prove it is a base though. Hamas will state they wanted quicker access to medical supplies. Israel needs to prove fighting took place from there.

  • I have heard the stories. Governments are known for funding backfiring throughout history, but I don't know enough about it to give an opinion.

  • So you want Israel to investigate errors of judgement that were made under duress. Without a doubt where errors are made then countries need to learn from them. Just remember those errors were caused by the actions of Hamas.

    And, where did I say Israel supported Hamas? It is not a claim I have ever made. You are misquoting yet again to twist your narrative.

  • The UK is more like Russia now than it ever has been in the past. We have active voter suppression, gerrymandering, a government that now control the electoral commission, protest rights removed, and many many more.

    The class system is not just about who land anymore. It is about who holds the most controlling influence. Murdoch being a case in point. This is something that is prevalent across the world. I agree that the old land owners should be taxed with respect to inheritance in line with everyone else. We most definitely do not need a king.