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  • I just see it as less practical than maintaining a toolchain for devs to use.

    There are definately some things preventing Nix adoption. What are the reasons you see it as less practical than the alternatives?

    What are alternative ways of maintaining a toolchain that achieves the same thing?

  • I have personally used fedora and nixos on a gen 1 framework 13 and it works great.

    Does Framework do anything regarding FOSS drivers or firmware?

    Regarding your question they say this:

    We deliberately selected components and modules that didn’t require new kernel driver development and have been providing distro maintainers with pre-release hardware to test to improve compatibility. We’re also working on enabling firmware updates through LVFS to complete the Linux experience.

    source: https://frame.work/gb/en/linux

  • I think it depends on the website. There are some websites where chrome will work better either because chrome works better with certain libraries/technologies or because the developers put more time into optimizing for chrome.

    On the other hand Firefox might have less bloat around telemetry that gives it an advantage too.

  • That seems like an argument for maintaining a frozen repo of packages, not against containers.

    I am not arguing against containers, I am arguing that nix is more reproducible. Containers can be used with nix and are useful in other ways.

    an argument for maintaining a frozen repo of packages

    This is essentially what nix does. In addition it verifies that the packages are identical to the packages specified in your flake.nix file.

    You can only have a truly fully-reproducible build environment if you setup your toolchain to keep copies of every piece of external software so that you can do hermetic builds.

    This is essentially what Nix does, except Nix verifies the external software is the same with checksums. It also does hermetic builds.

  • Related, this article talks about combining nix and direnv: https://determinate.systems/posts/nix-direnv

    Using these tools you are able to load a reproducible environment (defined in a nix flake) by simply cding into a directory.

  • Are you saying that nix will cache all the dependencies within itself/its “container,” or whatever its container replacement would be called?

    Yep, sort of.

    It saves each version of your dependencies to the /nix/store folder with a checksum prefixing the program name. For example you might have the following Firefox programs

     
        
    /nix/store/l7ih0zcw2csi880kfcq37lnl295r44pj-firefox-100.0.2
    /nix/store/cm1bdi4hp8g8ic5jxqjhzmm7gl3a6c46-firefox-108.0.1
    /nix/store/rfr0n62z21ymi0ljj04qw2d7fgy2ckrq-firefox-114.0.1
    
      

    Because of this you can largely avoid dependency conflicts. For example a program A could depend on /nix/store/cm1bdi4hp8g8ic5jxqjhzmm7gl3a6c46-firefox-108.0.1 and a program B could depend on /nix/store/rfr0n62z21ymi0ljj04qw2d7fgy2ckrq-firefox-114.0.1 and both programs would work as both have dependencies satisfied. AFAIK using other build systems you would have to break program A or program B (or find versions of program A and program B where both dependencies are satisfied).

  • You might be interested in this article that compares nix and docker. It explains why docker builds are not considered reproducible:

    For example, a Dockerfile will run something like apt-get-update as one of the first steps. Resources are accessible over the network at build time, and these resources can change between docker build commands. There is no notion of immutability when it comes to source.

    and why nix builds are reproducible a lot of the time:

    Builds can be fully reproducible. Resources are only available over the network if a checksum is provided to identify what the resource is. All of a package's build time dependencies can be captured through a Nix expression, so the same steps and inputs (down to libc, gcc, etc.) can be repeated.

    Containerization has other advantages though (security) and you can actually use nix's reproducible builds in combination with (docker) containers.

  • I think the DIY model doesn't include some components in the base price and that is why it is cheaper. Once you configure it to include other components it is a comparable price.

    It seems the DIY option will only really save you money if you already have those components or if you buy those other components cheaply somewhere else.

  • Previous products took much longer for batches to sell out. Even the AMD framework 13 laptops didn't sell this fast and they were the #1 thing the community had been asking for for about a year.

    We (sadly) can't tell how many units are in a batch. But we can tell that demand is far exceeding their expectations.

  • Mermaid is inuded by default in some markdown flavours, you can use it on github, mkdocs websites and probably others.

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  • I am quite liking liftoff. It has a slightly different layout to wefwef and you can customize it a bit if you don't like the default colours.

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  • never had that issue before, as long as they have the same version and config

    Then you are very lucky. "It worked on my machine" is a meme for a reason.

    wasn’t that possible before with snapshotting (btrfs/lvm)?

    I haven't used snapshotting with those before. I guess the difference is that with nix it is done by the package manager by default, with btrfs/lvm you would have to set that up independently (please correct of this is not the case).

  • So how useful it is in practice?

    It's useful for quite a few things in practise:

    • You can be sure software that is packaged with nix will behave the same on different computers.
    • You can avoid dependency conflicts.
    • You can automate some things that would otherwise take multiple (mostly manual steps) on other systems.

    This video shows off some of the cool things you can do with nix: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Le0IbPRzOE&feature=share9

    How do updates work?

    You update a programming by specifying the latest version of a program in config and rebuilding.

    You update the OS by pointing to the channel you want to use and rebuilding.

    You can time travel back to a previous state if anything goes wrong.

    Can it play Crysis?

    I expect so, some people.do use nix for gaming.

  • I have a framework laptop and really like it.

    The main benefit is that it is fairly future proof, so you could get one the of the cheaper ones now and then upgrade if you need better ram/CPU/apu