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  • ?? I don't even know what this means...

    In most cases this will not cause "planes to fall out of the sky". There is a serious risk of more ground collisions which are also horrible if poorly implemented. Air traffic control is for airports, not pilots. Depending on definition of Ai this could be good or bad. If it's Llms trying to do this it's totally a bad idea, not even what they are meant to do.

    There are systems that detect planes and land vehicles at an airport. Currently air traffic controllers have to keep all these in mind and estimate their future location. I could see Ai uses in this to have more accurate calculations of future locations and confirmations that two planes should nit collide. Those are all deterministic and "Ai". As I said in other thread only llm use I could maybe see is if they try to interpret the voice comms between pilot and tower but that could just be a simple form app the atc just taps.

    Here's the confusion I suspect... Every thing wants to put Ai in their sales pitch because it's the new hotness, many uses of "Ai" are not llm and can be deterministic and useful... We don't know what they mean by "Ai". The llm form of Ai is what gets attention but it totally useless in a lot of cases. People assume ai means llm due to news stories about llm but marketing departments are like "how can we incorporate the word Ai into this announcement?" which the engineers are like "Umm.. Well technically this counts as Ai" and marketing runs with it...

  • True, if they try this with a llm that's both stupid and will kill people. I disagree that no one will be responsible, who ever made that system should be responsible.

    Only use of a llm MAYBE interpting the speech over the comms between control tower and pilots and using that to put entries in the tracker for who is going where. This could also be a simple program on a screen, click the plane tag, click what it's going to do(take off, land, taxi, etc), click where that will happen and then you don't need any llm.

    Still Ai because the computer is determining if there will be a collision and activating alarms but that's deterministic and prove able. Plane a is at 7500 ft 7 miles out traveling at 2500 mph towards runway 47r. Plane b is at 35000 feet 20 miles out traveling at 4000 mph, can plane b also use runway 47r? Yes you can do the math to calculate. But let's say you make a mistake and drop a 0 somewhere, wouldn't it be nice to have an additional system that alerts you if the minimum distance between planes will be less than 1000ft for example?

  • I would say python is good for basics like for what's a variable, how if/else work, how to iterate over a list, the thought process of breaking down a problem into sub problems. Now it's not a good language for going much beyond that. Do not try to make a real time video renderer in python.

    Once past that I would say go either front end or backend. If backend c++ is a good option. Now that you know what a variable is we can discuss the difference between a uint32 and a bool. Why we don't use an int variable set to 1 or 0 to determine the results of an if statement. This is also where you learn about memory and how computers actually work.

    If front end is the choice, maybe not Javascript but typescript would probably be a good option. I don't know much about front end(I hate doing visual design) so I can't go into much detail. Is there a better front-end language you recommend? Only other one I know at all is c# with blazor or winforms.

    The issue I see with jumping straight into c++ is it's so much to learn to do simple stuff. For example a lot of early programmers get confused with working with functions and what return values. I attended a boot camp through work for python(I knew programming hobby level but it gave me a pay raise). There were 12 students, 4 choose to do a selenium script to test a website as a final project, 1 did a script I think for tracking expenses and income but he did it all in main because he couldn't figure out arguments and return values from other functions. This was after 9 weeks, 5 days a week 8 hours a day, plus 4 days to develop the final project. Now throw in what a header file is and the difference between declaring a function and defining a function. It's a lot to start off with.

  • I'm not a fan of Ai but everyone in this thread... It's air traffic control not pilots! There has been Ai for pilots for decades... Called autopilot!

    This is for coordinating planes and land vehicles traveling around the airport

  • Planes have had "Ai" for decades, it was called autopilot. This is for air traffic controllers. They sit in the tower and basically coordinate all the traffic on around the airport. Why this is important, look at the crash at laguadia(airport in NYC I'm likely spelling wrong). Basically fire crew wanted to cross run towards an unrelated incident, plane wanted to land. Atc told fire crew they were clear and told the plane they were clear to land... On same runway. Plane crashed into water truck of fire crew causing severe damage to both vehicles. "luckily" only the 2 pilots of the plane lost their lives, it could of been so much worse.

    MAYBE I could see a use of Ai. Currently their are sensors to detect where planes and land vehicles are but imagine if an llm could interpret the talk on the comms and detect if two statements could result in a collision. Especially if there are multiple Atc officers active. Like Tom tells one plane to land on runway 22 and Lucy tells another plane to land on runway 22 and Tom and Lucy don't hear eachother. Or if a single officer tells a plane to land on runway 30 but they were 10 minutes out. A truck to refill the food/drinks asks to cross runway 30 when the plane is only 20 seconds out. I could see the Atc officer forgetting about the plane and granting clearance.

    Ai logs all these orders, reading the sensors for current situation and activates visual and audio alarms that two orders may conflict. Officer could tell the plane to go around, maybe cost some fuel and time for a false alarm but potentially save hundreds of lives. Maybe Ai doesn't detect conflicting orders and it's up to the human officers to notice. We are now in the same situation we are currently. Now, if you try to eliminate the human element and just rely on Ai people will die in many accidents.

  • Every murderer in the last 100 years has had dhmo in their body prior to committing the murder!

  • I just moved just outside a major city in Texas. Me and my roommate decided to explore the city so we drove downtown, parked and just started walking around. We walked past a train station and there were people openly smoking weed wondering around the train station. This was in 2015, way before any weed legalization and it's still illegal in Texas.

    Now I don't care about people smoking weed, most are nice and at most will just ask if you have money, have weed, or are looking to buy weed. I don't even care if you do other drugs as long as you can handle it, know your limit and stay within it.

    What bothered me is across the street there were two police cars just watching. Standing out of their cars just watching. That means they didn't care about the low level weed crimes. They were there incase something larger went off. They were there in case of stabbings, shootings, mugging etc. I got out of there ASAP and never went back

  • Kinda but especially with extremely new, either python or Javascript is recommended. If they are absolutely new, scratch.

    1. I never mock those who are trying to learn.

    2. Why is he starting with c/c++? Yes they have uses but not as a starter just playing around.

    3. I struggled with this initially too cause I didn't understand why. Most people would say "give me the first object". In reality your requesting an offset * size of each item + list start.

  • I get the idea but there are several issues.

    1. Intermediate products. For example I've used many automatic measuring microscopes, so if a block was 25mm +/- 1mm it would find the edge of both sides and calculate the distance between them and determine if part was good. These systems are very expensive (cheap ones could buy a car, expensive ones could buy a house). It's useful but I don't think anyone would make it without a benefit to them personally. Technically I could do the same with a drop gauge or even a ruler but wouldn't be as accurate or as fast. In a lot of cases you don't need that, for example making utensils like forks or spoons. But for example making gears in a transmission have as tight if not tighter tolerances.

    2. Quanitity. Now let's make a house, yeah people might like the act of building. And we all agree houses are valuable, not monetarily but in shelter from weather and safety from animals and other humans. How many screws are in your house? If your answer is 3 digits you are wrong. Who is going to make all those screws? Now we are going to ignore machine screws which need a precise thread and just use wood screws. Do you think anyone's life dream is to make 10,000s of screws? If you find someone to make them, how are they going to feed their family over the months/years it will take them?

    3. Quality. Going back to screws they need accurate threading and accurate heads. Without accurate heads a screwdriver won't work(think of removing a stripped screw) and without accurate threads it won't screw down or mate with the drilled hole. Who is going to verify that? If you "buy" 1000 screws and only 50 are usable what do you do? With no incentive to make good screws does the screw maker care? Who is going to verify the food you get is safe to eat?

    4. Non-profit products. Let's say you love math. How are you going to survive? In history their were patrons who paid some of these people hoping there would be a reason in several years or decades. Some worked out, some didn't. But someone needed to say "yeah study how to solve that problem and I'll support you while you do". But they have limited resources too. In most cases these were basically investments hoping the end product would result in a net benefit. You can't survive with just math. You can't go into the woods and scream a theorum at a deer to get meat to feed your family. Now that math feeds into intermediate products which feed into final products which are valuable and that value gets distributed to all the earlier producers.

    Yeah people like to make final products. Most people won't enjoy just sitting their useless. Some people like fixing/restoring stuff. But they use so so many stuff other people have done. Distribution is totally fucked up, granted. But for some people to do their dreams there are so many other people they rely on.

  • Just don't get the "oil" from rkelly

  • Even better... One pronoun for the entire subreddit. Go back to the initial launch of the subreddit, find the first pronoun, ban everyother post which uses any pronouns for anything...

    Sorry for multiple posts my app must of been messing up.

    Also I always found pronouns funny. Not tranphobic or anything but the literal word pronoun. We have pronouns and proper nouns, imagine if that was true for other words. "yes you're a pro-doctor but I'm a proper doctor" or in a interview "yeah I'm programmer, soon I'm planning to take the test and become a propergrammer!"

    Actually I'm upgrading my resume and putting my job title as "propergrammer"!

  • Yeah but it was a joke... The is fucking a ton of people so the condom manufacturer has to raise prices. Yes the real reason is oil but that's not nearly as funny.

  • Wow, never expected to meet Micheal Jackson on here!

  • Too many people being fucked?

  • Wait one pronoun? But cis people are typically he/him or she/her each of those groups have 2. Strictly following that rule only people allowed should be "any" or "gender fluid" right?

    I get this is horrible and hateful but I would totally go nuclear strict compliance. The person most likely meant "you can only ask to be referred to by one set of pronouns" but he said "one pronoun".

    "I made a picture for my mother and she liked it".. Banned she and it are both pronouns. "He taught me that feature" banned he and that are pronouns. "we are reviewing this bug report" banned we and this are pronouns.