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  • Feddit Zionists are desperate to scapegoat Netanyahu for all of Israel's crimes

  • Only avoiding Chinese products while giving NSA ones a parse does make them racist though

  • Ah yes, very nuanced

  • I should not say crazy so much as racist. The idea of a westerner calling China a "well known surveillance state" without irony is farcical. What exactly are you worried will happen?

  • Your entire world view seems to heavily lean on the childish idea that you and your alone live in “the real world”. Literal protagonist syndrome

  • I’m sorry, its a comparison of value of jobs.

    Then show your work. So far you've presented no actual arguments based on value, or indeed provided no numerical analysis at all. All you've done is asset that certain kinds of workers are more deserving of higher pay based on nothing but vibes about their intrinsic character (apparently construction workers are hard working but retail workers are not? Based on what? Why does whether they're hard working or not even matter when you're trying to claim this is about the value the work creates. If you actually believed that - and you don't - then it wouldn't matter how much of a hard worker they are). The only basis there seems to be for what work you deem worthy that I can glean is based on whether it's stereotypically men's work or women's work. So, sexism

    Why do engineers get paid more? Because they’re fucking smart

    So it's not to do with the value of the work then. It's about the virtues of your idea of the a platonic example of that kind of worker. "Engineers are smart so they are more deserving of wealth". Put aside that engineers are all individuals with different intelligence levels, and that most engineers I've met are dumb as rocks outside of their very narrow area is expertise.

    If you partied your 20s away and didnt learn shit, fuck you, you deserve less money and a lower living standard

    So again, nothing to do with the value of the work, and everything to do with your moral judgement of the people in question. You want people to be poor as punishment for not living the way you believe they should, and all the people who were just unlucky, disabled, naturally unintelligent, or simply didn't go into a line if work that you consider macho enough are all acceptable collateral damage to ensure that nobody gets off unpunished.

    Still, no reason for that person to ever go hungry, thats not what I’m advocating for

    Yes. It is. The minimum wage has been stagnant for decades, and is falling to subsistence levels. More than that, why do you care if there is "no reason for that person to ever go hungry"? You're already arguing that people should be impoverished for no reason, why not starved? It's just punishment for their laziness, afterall; if they wanted to make enough money to eat, they should have been responsible and started working at the factory when they were 10, rather than fucking around and not learning shit. "Fuck them" right? That's your argument, after all.

    Why do grocery store sorters get paid less? My grandma does it for a job and its easy.

    So, again, nothing to do with the value of the work, and everything to do with punishing people for not having it hard enough. Also lol; clearly you've never worked a high paying white collar job if you think grocery sorters have it easy.

    And if your grandma works an easy job, explain to me why she deserves to live at all? Why shouldn't she die in the streets for refusing to work the mines?

    I merely believe that more valuable work should be a higher reward.

    Nonsense: none of what you said had anything to do with the value of the work and everything to do with punishing people for not living the way a Protestant psycho thinks is virtuous.

    I think people REALLY got offended at this, maybe because they are sad little people with no job living in a basement and blaming everyone else for their problems.

    Says the removed chucking a tantrum about the idea of people he deems lesser not being punished enough. And, you dumb fucking idiot, minimum wage doesn't apply to people with no job. This is literally about trying to make it so that people who do work don't have to live in a basement. You fucking stupid ghoul

  • Your reply is reactionary and quite frankly immature.

  • Stuck in your little bubble worlds

    Your entire world view seems to heavily lean on the childish idea that you and your alone live in "the real world". Literal protagonist syndrome

  • Because the work needs to get done.

    Also, nobody said anything about "the same level of pay", you through this tantrum just at the idea that they would make "more than they deserve"

  • Lol. .worlders not beating the allegations

  • Most Palestinians do not get citizenship at all

  • Imagine trying to claim that Israelis are the victims here.

  • Dipshit, you fucking lost it at the suggestion that people you think you're superior to deserve fair pay.

  • As someone in the real world

    Everyone lives in the real world, dipshit. Are you a literal child who hasn't learnt that other people are real yet?

    But, to the point that the person building houses deserves the same as a clothing store employee ? Fuck no.

    Why the fuck not? They both perform demanded labour. I can only assume this bizarre statement is motivated by sexism.

    There are levels of value people bring to society. Its always been that way.

    For example, people like you bring no value to society, and we would be better off if you died.

    Nuance on Lemmy is often disregarded.

    The nuance of "some people are just inferior and deserve to live a subsistence existence"

  • That's going to happen anyway champ.

  • You didn't apply any logic though, you just made a lot of unfounded assertions needed on your feelings about things. You really are a vile little slug.

  • The absolute arrogance of thinking that your experience is "the real world". Serious protagonist syndrome. And no, there's no truth to what you stated.

  • The hardest working people I know make shitall, and the lazy ones who don't do anything useful make bank. I'd rather pizza place workers make a living wage for the thankless work they do then overpayed middle manager ghouls get to feel like bigshots.

    People like you are so obsessed with making sure nobody gets a single penny more than they "deserve" disgust me. If people like you had their way, we'd all still be working 16 hours a day in the mines for subsistence wage, because obviously we don't deserve better.

  • Progressive Politics @lemmy.world

    Biden Administration Knowingly Suppressed Information About Conditions in Gaza

    www.reuters.com /world/early-warning-apocalyptic-wasteland-gaza-blocked-by-us-envoys-israel-2026-01-30/