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  • I can hate on multiple things at the same time

  • Is it? The most optimistic numbers I'm seeing puts it close to car travel per km. An ICE car that is, not an EV.

  • 9 hours of travel is also hell. Add some stops along the route, do some sightseeing, visit some cities by rail. It'll be slower but much more rewarding

  • Well the materials matter a bit. But for example wind mill vanes are also made out of horrible, hard to recycle materials. Yet over their lifespan the amount of oil and gas that doesn't have to get burned makes up for it.

  • Yeah.. I wish for people to feel proud that they are contributing and wanting to contribute more because it makes them feel good. Instead of debilitating shame for thinking they aren't doing enough.

  • Mostly policy news I guess. For example, some governments are increasing jet fuel subsidies to cancel out the higher oil prices. Yet rail projects are struggling to get funding.

  • Fair. I'm not a maritime expert. I just get excited about new energy harvesting and propulsion tech.

  • Another unpopular opinion, in reply some of the sentiment in the comments: You don't have to be a heavy polluter to be conscious of your impact on the planet. The biggest polluters care the least anyway. Laws can make a difference there but also normalizing eco-consciousness and marginalizing those that aren't.

  • Power users make a bigger difference. But that doesn't mean others shouldn't be conscious of their impact.

  • I'm not saying private jets aren't a problem. Both are a problem

  • So when I did my own research I came to the conclusion that.. it depends.. There is more going on that just the amount of CO2 being put in the air. It's being put in a different space, from a different fuel type with different byproducts. Either way, it's pretty bad for the environment, just like cars are. And we don't have hybrid or electric large planes yet.

  • They know it's a problem, but the problem is easy to ignore. People think their trip is just a small drop in the bucket, but it all adds up.

  • Yes, France already banned short flights on routes that have similar train service. More counties should do that and over time increase the restrictions

  • Yes but since they just generate power for the propeller, they can travel directly into the wind. Which is something sails struggle with.

  • Both are a problem. Private jets are much more wasteful but only a small portion of total kms traveled

  • It's true that people defend cars. But my problem is that people don't question planes. And when people say they hate air travel it's often about the experience and not about the impact on our environment and cities

  • Unpopular Opinion @lemmy.world

    People don't hate on plane travel enough

  • Looking for a simple solution to a complex problem rarely works. Also wrong community.