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  • That user was banned from the instance, not from the community. You just admitted to banning them. So you just admitted to having admin level tools without having any of the accountability of an admin level account.

    Lemmy.world admins cannot be trusted if they're giving you access to that discord bot after you say stuff like this:

  • Okay, so with this ban, Serinus has effectively placed himself as an Admin of lemmy.world itself.He is stating positions for Lemmy.world itself, not just himself or his communities. Kaplan and other admins like @Ruud@lemmy.world are not stepping in and not criticising his behavior. With this behavior ongoing, it must be approved from the top level down or that the admins are totally out to lunch and not capable/willing of stepping in.

    Moreover, a bot exists and has been talked about in the past. I was given access to it when I was on Lemmy.world. The bot was created by KingOfFlorda to allow for users like myself and Jordan to be able to deal with CSAM and other extremely bad actors when the admins were not available. There is no reason to believe that Serinus does not have access to the bot. The bot in question allows a non-admin user to apply an instance level ban to someone.

    It was with this bot that you were banned from the instance.

    You were not banned from an Admin account, you were banned from the bot account.

    @MrKaplan@lemmy.world and @Ruud@lemmy.world have now, in effect, made @Serinus@lemmy.world an admin by allowing him to repeatedly post positions on behalf of Lemmy.world with stuff such as this:

    In conclusion, Lemmy.world can now no longer be trusted for any admin decision. They are not being transparent with their decisions or even who their admins and those who have admin abilities are. They are willing to give total control of the website to someone who has repeatedly lied, repeatedly silenced others for misinformation that have categorical proof and someone who has openly posted a mod level comment condoning the bullying of instances provided they are under a certain number of users. Lemmy.world admins are willing to give admin level control and abilities to a user but are unwilling to force him to take the accountability of an admin.

    A defederation vote must be held immediately with the Flotilla. Lemmy.world has surpassed bad acting at this stage and have proven they have no active administration that can be trusted to follow their own Terms of Service.

    Kaplan stated about Anarchist.nexus that there is "there is no sufficient moderation of violence on communities there". Yet, Lemmy.world has no sufficient moderation of its admins or mods at all.

  • Funny thing is that I've talked to Ruud a bunch in the past and may have disagreed with him but respected him. But the dragging of the feet on Jordan and now this total lack of commenting on what is blatantly an abuse of power of their only active admin (outside of Kersploosh) is ridiculous.

  • At this stage, after multiple notifications to the LW Admin team both here on their own communities and in private messages to Kaplan from me, it's clear that Serinus' behavior is not only acceptable but actively condoned and approved. Which really stands out to me when he's saying stuff like this:

    Due to nothing happening with Serinus, there is no other way to take this other than the accepted position of the LW Administration team. Which means that the LW Admin team is not just approving of bullying instances based on usercount, but is now actively partaking in it. My question is where is the line?

    How many users does it take for LW Admins to consider an instance valid?

    That's not even considering the fact that he removed comments for 'misinformation' that had screenshots to prove they were accurate. So not only are the LW admins condonining bullying of instances based off of usercount, but they're now also partaking in misinformation and suppression of proof.

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  • Yeah that was Serinus. The fact that comment has been left up and he hasn't been criticisized publicly for it is demonstration of how LW feels. Because its a small instance, it doesn't matter. LW is just bullying instances smaller than them to control the field. The majority of the admin team of LW needs to be completely replaced or defederation is the only acceptable option now. If they're going to threaten and bully, then everyone else needs to cut them off at the knees first to stop them from being able to do so.

    "It's only 165 users"

    And that's still 165 users that Lemmy.world was more than happy to defederate with to go after someone who isn't even an admin anymore. Not only that, but going after them for what Kaplan admitted was a lack of evidence. Just a feeling.

  • Oh this is so fuckin cool. Thanks for the call out!

  • They didn't delete it. It was posted above, and I copied it, just in case they deleted it. Although it's depressingly telling that I felt the need to do that.

  • I already copied and stashed it after I made it anyway

  • If they want to pour gas on the fire they'll just follow their natural instincts, apparently.

  • I saw the post from Kaplan and immediately just started pinching the bridge of my eyes. It's like the admins of LW are hellbent on doing everything they possibly can to make every situation they get into as much of a dumpster fire as possible.

  • Because they haven't. They're threatening to. I'd recommend clicking on that link to the announcement post and checking out the comments.

    The tl;dr is that they had defederated from anarchist.nexus (the piefed version of dbzer0) and was threatening to defederate from dbzer0 despite never actually talking with anyone from either instance before beginning the defederation proceedings. After a day, Kaplan made the announcement post which has been getting overwhelmingly negative reactions to the decision on behalf of LW Admins. This led to Kaplan reversing the defederation for anarchist.nexus but, as the announcement post states, is still considering defederating from dbzer0 and if they do so will also defederate from anarchist.nexus again. They have literally no reason for this defederation at this stage.

  • Yeah, I highly recommend starting your switch to another instance immediately. There is a discussion happening behind the scenes for a number of other major instances to defederate from lemmy.world if LW does indeed go through with the defederation from dbzer0 because, at that point, Kaplan will have proven a few things.

    1. That Kaplan/LW admins value individual users like themselves over the entirety of an instances users

    2. That Kaplan/LW admins are not willing to engage in the same type of reporting behavior that they ask others to do

    3. That Kaplan/LW admins will be taking nuclear options in order to bully smaller instances into bowing to what they want you to do

    4. That Kaplan/LW admins will be policing what you think as they have literally zero evidence that there is any support for Luminous' behavior and, in fact, has been pushback. It's so ridiculous that Jordan Lund said this in their moderator chat for Lemmy.world. A chat that I just sit in and quietly drink my tea watching them lie boldfaced.

  • These words mean that the topic under discussion in that screenshot is NOT the original defederation, but rather whether AN (&dbzer0) should be re-federated, which ended up happening.

    No, actually, it wasn't. The fact that you are trying to claim that you know the context of this conversation that you were not part of is staggering. You do not get to gaslight me, the person who was actually there, on what happened. Nor do you get to re-write the actuality of what occured. That is not what the discussion was actually referring to. It was, indeed, referring to what I originally claimed as I was the one who was there to see it.

    “in the end this is however not a decision i will be doing alone, nor was the defederation a decision that wasn’t supported by others, despite their misrepresentation of this being me taking total power to fuck over others

    My claim was that Kaplan did not talk to the admins of anarchist.nexus about this defederation and actually escalate this in an adult and mature way. That does nothing to claim otherwise. It was, indeed, a total power move to fuck over others. No one from any other instance was considered. No one was spoken to until after the defederation occured. How do I know? Because I was in the conversation.

    I was discussing whether the defederation had happened by MrKaplan entirely alone, vs. him consulting others, and I had indicated the word “evidence” meaning that the decision was made without consulting others.

    And you were the one who moved the goalpost there in the first place because my point was that anarchist.nexus was not considered all despite there being other admins on that instance. They were not talked to until after the defederation. See above for proof.

    Though that is precisely what you are accusing MrKaplan of - acting on emotion rather than logic?

    Correct.

    we can agree on that much, and the rest will have to wait until another day, as the decision to re-federate was already made. You’ve won: enjoy it:-D.

    I did not 'win'. No one 'won'. Kaplan did nothing. They backed down off of defederation temporarily but after they made a catastrophic error while still claiming that they are considering defederation.

    Its kind of shocking to me that you start all of this off by saying I should do more research and then try to tell me what happened in my own conversations and not point out the fact that defederation is still on the table. I'm done having this conversation with you.

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    Serinus is now policing the Lemmy.world announcement about defederating with Dbzer0

  • Luminous was an admin at the time. Then, Luminous stepped down from being an admin. Then, as you mentioned, LW re-federated AN once more.

    And is still considering defederating with it again as the post states. You do not get to claim full refederation as that is not the situation we are in. You are downplaying the situation.

    If Luminous had merely been a mod, this could have been handled by blocking, but since they were an admin - at the time - it could only be handled by defederation.

    No. It could have been handled by speaking with the admins of the other instance and saying "This is a problem." Speech is always an option, especially before taking a nuclear one.

    I suppose you are calling MrKaplan a liar

    Correct.

    It seems his word against yours

    No, I literally just presented it in the original comment.

    With no evidence currently presented either way

    I literally presented evidence in the original comment. A screenshot with a message from Mr. Kaplan stating that they had no evidence for what was going on, only an odd feeling. Here is the screenshot again with the relevant information highlighted.

    What is your goal here on mispresenting reality so heavily?

  • Unless @ruud@lemmy.world is willing to put his foot down? Nothing. And I doubt he is.

  • Luminous acted as a user/moderator. Kaplan acted as an admin.

    You are not taking any of this into account. I'm not wasting my time with this because, I too, elborated on this elsewhere.

  • I think you should probably refresh the page and look at my comment again because it's full of screenshots that are listing that, yes, I do know what I'm talking about and that what Kaplan did is indeed based off of a feeling. Including using a screenshot from Kaplan themselves.

    Luminous did not start this witch hunt because Luminous acted as a moderator and not as an admin. Kaplan was the one who leapfrogged over speaking to any other admin and instantly went straight to defederation. Kaplan never told anyone else. Kaplan did not bring this up as problematic. Kaplan just instantly defederated. Something that, as this thread has been updated to show, they went ahead and undone because there was no justification for continue to defederate when the admin in question is gone.

    The situation is, infact, more dramatic than I original made it out to be. I did plenty of research. You're just sitting on a very old comment because the whole thing about me "not knowing what was going on" was edited out fucking hours ago.

  • What's really funny is the realization that I had. I keep forgetting that Kaplan is using the name of a character from a TV show.

    That character, a woman that uses the name Mr Kaplan for backstory reasons, ended up being written out (temporarily) after she went against the lead character (of which it aint me, I'm a random fuckin NPC in Season 1 Episode 2 in the background) and proceeded to not talk to him or anyone else and do what she thought was best. Unilaterally made a decision that managed to functionally destroy everything she was trying to protect, leaving her to desperately try and clean up the mess.

    Makes you think. Just hoping that this time Mr. Kaplan doesn't fake Liz's death.

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