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  • Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE

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  • I mean, if you are not going to engage with the things I actually said, then there is only so much I can in response. 😃

    Enjoy your "later dork" Parthian shot.

  • Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE

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  • I genuinely appreciate your concern, but you do not have to worry about me. 😀

  • Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE

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  • I can understand that, but keep in mind that, from my perspective, my original comment,

    I think that you might not get to claim the mantle of peaceful protest when you start blowing things up yourself.

    was intended to be perfectly innocuous (if a bit wry). After all, the article was about a largely peaceful protest, and introducing demolition into the mix seems like it would be going against the spirit of that.

    Regarding, "only tangentially related to the topic", I think that you will note that the paragraph I wrote just now analyzing the effect of the protest on the developer conference and the likely effect it had on recruitment in the long term is more than anyone else in this post has said about what actually happened in this particular protest, rather than various fantasies of Palantir's destruction. I actually would have loved to have more interesting discussion along those lines (because my analysis is not the only valid one!), but there is not much evidence that anyone else here read more than just the title...

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  • RingSun, specifically the Black Coffee flavor.

    Now that we have gotten that out of the way: if you think that blowing up fascist things is the right thing to do in a particular situation, then why do you care so much about whether it is a peaceful act or not?

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  • This article is about protests that were (arguably) largely peaceful, and I presume that was intentional on the part of the organizers. I doubt that they would be interested in dropping the mantle of peaceful protest in order to gain license to start blowing up buildings. I could be wrong about that, though. Certainly no one here seems to be interested in peaceful protest.

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  • Who would make an argument that exploding anything is peaceful?

    You, by posting a comment disagreeing with my original comment pointing out demolition crosses the line into not being peaceful.

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  • Who’s arguing for peaceful protest here?

    Apparently no one here, though I think (possibly incorrectly) that the protestors in the article were intending to be peaceful.

    And why is the binary of “peaceful/not peaceful” important to you?

    I would ask why it seems to be so important to everyone else, given that there was so much resistance to the idea that blowing up buildings is not "peaceful".

    Are you trying to make the point that protests aren’t valid or effective unless they’re “peaceful?”

    It depends on what the goal of a given protest is.

    For example, this protest had the goal of interfering with a developer conference in order to disrupt the recruitment of new talent, and it would seem that they were very effective in this because there was evidence that the event was shut down. However, in the long run I am not sure how much this will help because I suspect that the event will just be rescheduled, and I suspect that the people attending the event probably felt intimidated as a result of all the people banging on the windows rather than guilty for attending the event. (Just to be clear, I am not saying that therefore this was wasted time on their part; I am just saying that celebrating might be premature.)

    Regardless, if nothing else, the protest succeeded very well in being very visible and unignorable, and I think that there is a lot of value in that. Certainly I would rather that they do this kind of thing than that they be casually blowing up buildings as many here would prefer.

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  • Look, people here seem to think that I am crying over what happens to Palantir. I'm not. What concerns me is that people genuinely seem to believe that destruction of buildings is perfectly compatible with the word "peace".

    If you are going to advocate for a non-peaceful act, then don't shy away from what you are doing. Claiming that what you are doing is peaceful even though it involves blowing up things seems to me like inherently lying to yourself to make yourself feel better. It is much better to acknowledge that blowing up the building is a non-peaceful act and then examine it critically in order to determine whether it is really worth it, then to dismiss it as being peaceful which makes it seem like it is not a big deal.

    I know that I am probably wasting my time, it's just that so much of the hell we are going through in the U.S. is the result of people believing in stories that they tell themselves about what they are doing in order to make themselves feel better, rather than evaluating things critically, and I really wish there were less of this mentality in the world...

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  • So property destruction is inherently peaceful as long as the property did not belong to a human being?

  • Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE

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  • So, just to be clear, you are claiming that blowing up Palantir would be an inherently peaceful act?

  • "submitter didn't know the difference. Perhaps, because he was focused on delivering quality product and didn't delve that deep into the terminology. This is a wrong attitude towards your allies"

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  • Thanks for the link! After reading through the requirements, I see the following, which is probably what led to the package's rejection:

    Savannah is a free software hosting site: we host projects such as yours for the sake of the ideals of freedom and community that the free software movement stands for. We offer Savannah hosting to free software packages, as free software packages; therefore, please describe your package clearly as a free software package. Please label it as “free software” rather than as “open source”. [emphasis mine]

    So I suppose that it was a clearly stated rule that is indeed violated in the README. Still, a better response than:

    Savannah is a software forge for free software. We don't host packages that identify themselves as open source.

    Would have been:

    Your README identifies the package as "open source" rather than "free software", violating our hosting requirements. Please fix this.

    It would only have required slightly more typing, and would have come across as far less hostile.

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  • I don't think that if I blew up your home while you and your loved ones were out that you would consider this to be a peaceful act merely because no one you cared about was physically harmed.

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  • I think that you might not get to claim the mantle of peaceful protest when you start blowing things up yourself.

  • Ubuntu Maker Canonical Generated Nearly $300M In Revenue Last Year - Phoronix

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  • ENDELAYIFICATION IS STILL BAD!!!

  • Announcing Rust 1.88.0 | Rust Blog

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  • Just to be clear: it is only the GNU toolchain for which the 32-bit target is being demoted, not the MSVC toolchain.

  • "submitter didn't know the difference. Perhaps, because he was focused on delivering quality product and didn't delve that deep into the terminology. This is a wrong attitude towards your allies"

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  • Sheesh, the submitted package is explicitly licensed under the GPL, but apparently that was not good enough for it to count as "free software" because the words "open source" appear in its README.

  • How much data do you require before you accept something as "fact"?

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  • Evidence suggests that “consciousness” is the mechanism that allows separate parts of the brain to communicate with other parts of the brain and coordinate activities. The hypothesis is this is done by the frontal cortex which is responsible for reasoning, decision making, and controlling voluntary movements. However, there is still much research required in Neurosciences before we have a solid theory and understanding of consciousness.

    So in other words... it exists.

    It is worth nothing that the first sentence is exactly my perspective, as I explicitly stated earlier:

    I think that consciousness in the brain is just an approach that it uses to aggregate and share information amongst several subcomponents.

  • How much data do you require before you accept something as "fact"?

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  • Sure! What exactly do you think consciousness is (or is not)? You seem to think that I was motivated to enter this conversation in order to feel smart, but asked my original question because I was genuinely interested in your point of view.

  • How much data do you require before you accept something as "fact"?

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  • Once again, you prove yourself too cowardly to state your thought outright. 😉