The article also argues for the same point, I believe. However, it posits that the right-wing and populist movements in Europe are employing the language and political tools of Christian Democracy to rationalize their actions. The process of European integration has also contributed to these dynamics. Nonetheless, you are correct; the fundamental reasons lie elsewhere.

3y ago

🌊 Christian democracy is to blame for Europe’s democratic backsliding

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mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

l’éducation nationale a vraiment fait un bon travail avec toi, tu répètes bien les choses. Bravo. Mais ta conception de la république est naïve (si on est gentils) ou plutôt stupide..

Les racines intellectuelles et politiques de la démocratie chrétienne se retrouvent principalement en France, avec des philosophes tels que Jacques Maritain, le père de la démocratie chrétienne européenne.

Et le peuple, OUI, le bon peuple français, qui est "loin" d'être représenté par le "gouvernement actuel"... je me souviens des manifestations pour tous sous ma fenêtre. et je me souviens de Marine Le Pen, arrivée en deuxième position au second tour des élections... avec sa France chrétienne.

Tout cela pour dire : on ne peut pas ignorer la religion en France. vraiment pas. et nous ne sommes pas SI différents d'autres pays, comme Piketty l'a bien expliqué.

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mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

si l'opinion et les arguments de Thomas Piketty ne t'intéressent pas, je comprends. mais tu ne peux pas nier que le rôle de la religion est extrêmement important dans le débat politique ici, et ce, depuis toujours. on aime bien se la raconter, mais la France n'est pas plus laïque que d'autres pays... on pourrait dire que c'est laïcard, ça oui, mais pas laïque.

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mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

mec...

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mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

hmm.

In France, we like to give lessons in secularism to the whole world. It is not here that a president would take an oath on the Bible! The problem is that this great national narrative is sometimes accompanied by monumental hypocrisy. In reality, there is nothing particularly neutral or exemplary about the system in place in France.

https://www.lemonde.fr/blog/piketty/2020/12/

France is not really different from other European countries when it comes to religion. And often "laicité" is used to enforce an "identity" politics based on Christianity. Like, Sarkozy and his bullshit "Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public" (law forbidding the veil)? Or the early debate about burkini that is on ALL the medias?

But tell yourself that christianism has long gone extinct in France, sure, lol.

Europe @lemmy.ml

mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

🌊 Christian democracy is to blame for Europe’s democratic backsliding

theloop.ecpr.eu /christian-democracy-is-culpable-for-europes-democratic-backsliding/

Philosophy @lemmy.ml

mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

🌊 Christian democracy is to blame for Europe’s democratic backsliding

theloop.ecpr.eu /christian-democracy-is-culpable-for-europes-democratic-backsliding/

3y ago

Where and when did you start your fediverse journey?

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mah [none/use name] @hexbear.net

3y ago

In 2019 (or was it 2018?), i joined Mastodon within a now presumably defunct instance. I noted that the community was absolutely toxic and neurotic, in contrast to Twitter. And that says a lot. Cliquish bullshit. I deleted my accounts. Perhaps now it's better...

Recently i joined lemmy, bcs on reddit saying that you don't think fomenting a war is a good thing gets you permabanned. Reddit used to be a relatively free and welcoming place, with different opinions and a good degree of tolerance. Now it's just neo-liberals ghouls and bleeding hearts liberals.