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  • When I was about 12, I got into a discussion about the environment with another kid at school. She told me that it didn’t matter if we ruined the environment of the countries we all live in now, because we could all just move to the Arctic or Antarctica.

    this is the level the median hackernews poster thinks on

  • anthropic is the most moral ai company in the universe

  • guys

  • People generally do not like being killed.

    source?

  • i'm in the middle of freefalling down a research rabbit hole and ran across this person decrying curtis yarvin as a fake monarchist who doesn't understand what makes REAL monarchism good:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/1iy4fto/moldbug_morons_and_monarchism_an_xpost_of_my/

    someone in the replies asks the obvious question

    Ok but what stops the monarch from being a tyrant

    and their answer is that you can just kill the monarch

    It's still One Person. A mortal, fleshy person. Their defence is that they're inoffensive, things are stable, nothing is directly their fault and people are bound by law and oath. But if they screw up badly enough that the things they're supposed to do don't happen? There's more of everyone else than One Person.

  • new odium symposium episode is now available on all platforms. we look Avgi Saketopoulou and Ann Pellegrini's Gender Without Identity, a contemporary work of queer psychoanalytic theory. then we look at a case study in which it all goes wrong.

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/14-just-call-me-155052365

    also we're starting a discord for the podcast https://discord.gg/7tEEE39Fx

    also also we're going to release our first subscriber episode next week, where we look at the pseudoscientists of paper repository viXra

  • when it's two rat inflected guys with bad politics doing this sort of thing

  • i love seeing tracing pop up! a true heel to toe bootlicker incapable of seeing himself as anything but the MOST independent thinker

  • there's a lot i want to pull out from this comment by ngo

    first, shorn of context, i don't know that this sort of power fantasy reflects so poorly on the rationalists. or perhaps it does, and in that case also reflects poorly on me, since it's my preferred power fantasy. the world sucks and it would be nice to magically make it better. EDIT: ok im noticing that the naruto fanfiction excerpt is just straightforwardly jerking off about doing a fascist coup

    second, we must remember that rat stories are implicitly either recipes for social change or warnings that society ought to stay away from particular demons. rationalism is in large part a political movement with what they believe to be practical aims

    third, if ngo's marxist fiction from the 1800s all ended with communist revolutions, the worrying thing for a member of the movement would not be a fantasy of triumph or a sense of certainty of triumph, but rather an inability to connect triumphant outcomes to action under the present conditions. as you highlighted, the fantastical element of these stories is in conflict with the practicality of their aims

    fourth, as far as i can tell, that is not ngo's objection at all. what he seems to be concerned about is the possibility that rationalists will make serious progress on actually taking over the world and make terrible things happen once they do. i don't take this possibility seriously at all. fundamentally, rationalists are lapdogs, forever licking the negligently outstretched hands of billionaires. they cause real harm as lackeys of the ultrawealthy and vectors for the diseases of racism, eugenics, etc, but to take ngo's concerns seriously i would have to buy into the same fantasy of magical omnipotence he's pointing to, because there seems to be no other path from here to rationalist dictatorship.

  • in all honesty we would love it if doing this were our job but there is no pathway to that that we can see. we just do it b/c it's really fun

  • to say that i wouldn't trust the boundaries at a rape party with aella is understating things

  • our pay is our satisfaction in having inflicted it on others as well

  • one of the brain geniuses at bluesky

  • wrt to the first part, nick consistently outmaneuvers people who bring him onto their platforms. he's honestly brilliant at understanding who the audience is, what frame he's appearing in, and how to signal given those circumstances. i didn't understand until i started prepping for this episode that nick is actually lazy and incurious in almost the exact same way alex jones is. dan and jordan notice and call out how he effortlessly establishes dominance over alex, but i think there's a subtler game going on where nick manages to appear competent and informed compared to alex, and you don't realize that's just an artifact of conversational skill until you hear nick on his own show.

    wrt to the second part, i could not agree more and i'm very glad to hear that is a takeaway because it is absolutely something i was hoping to communicate. that's the freudianness of it all, how these existing patterns of relations to another get played out and reenacted through the audience's relationship to nick, and vice versa

  • i think this is exactly why they had to come up with - or rather, misappropriate - the concept of coupled vs decoupled thinking. when they (especially the more, ahem, human biodiversity minded of them) fold ridiculous claims about what constitutes virtuous cognition into scientific and sophisticated sounding terminology, it makes those claims seem aligned with the broader sales pitch of rationalism

    also that scott quote is excellent. i hadn't heard that one before

  • if we had made the podcast series on rationalists, their importance as useful idiots for billionaires was the structure i wanted to hang the whole thing on. so this is a gratifying read. that said i think the ideas here will be familiar to many stubsack readers

    The rationalist view of the world assumes, at some level, that the relevant actors are optimizing for well-understood, predictable variables and a clear understanding of what best serves their self-interest. What it cannot account for is bad faith, impulsiveness, ideological motivation untethered from evidence, random instances of force majeure, and personal whims and petty rivalries.

    i will go further and say that not accounting for such things is considered virtuous in rationalist ideology

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    America’s Tech Right Is Obsessed With Building Giant Statues

    www.bloomberg.com /news/features/2025-10-17/america-s-tech-right-is-obsessed-with-building-giant-statues
  • Buttcoin @awful.systems

    What World Does Bitcoin Want To Build For Itself?

    defector.com /what-world-does-bitcoin-want-to-build-for-itself
  • Buttcoin @awful.systems

    U.S. Housing Agency Considers Launching Crypto Experiment

    www.propublica.org /article/hud-considers-crypto-blockchain-stablecoin-housing-urban-development
  • Buttcoin @awful.systems

    dog wif tools rugpuller tool rug pulls rugpullers

    www.web3isgoinggreat.com /single/rugpuller-tool-rug-pulls-rugpullers
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    elon musk's obsession with the tic tac toe of video games

  • Buttcoin @awful.systems

    my friend made a find at the bookstore

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    the dead end grift that is lab grown meat

    thecounter.org /lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/
  • NotAwfulTech @awful.systems

    Moderators Across Social Media Struggle to Contain Celebrations of UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Assassination

    www.404media.co /brian-thompson-social-media-reactions-reddit-facebook-twitter/
  • Buttcoin @awful.systems

    A week of failing to pay with bitcoin in El Salvador

    reason.com /2024/10/31/a-week-of-failing-to-pay-with-bitcoin-in-el-salvador/
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    a stunning self own

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    the enshittification of magic: the gathering

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    "I consider myself a dark elf"

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Microsoft to reopen 3 mile island to power AI

    www.politico.com /news/2024/09/20/constellation-nuclear-plant-deal-microsoft-00180218
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Google Violated Antitrust Laws in Online Search, Judge Rules

    www.nytimes.com /2024/08/05/technology/google-antitrust-ruling.html
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    taking a peek at a subreddit for lovers of ai art

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Techno-utopianism and the path into darkness

    docs.google.com /document/d/e/2PACX-1vR4iKuXgyx09S5zE8qW-Hmq4cg5q4CZjNYY7mXba35Zm60VYVJRgbEEQDCDfpFObf3m7UCHBgwrDeJm/pub
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    rationalists discuss: does testosterone make you stupid?

    www.lesswrong.com /posts/BBCtWtg44Yeh6fire/is-being-a-trans-woman-or-just-low-t-20-iq
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    wow. sensible

  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    New Windows AI feature records everything you’ve done on your PC

    arstechnica.com /gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recall-feature-will-record-everything-you-do-on-your-pc/
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    we're not Nazis btw