theskyisfalling

theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 7d ago

I mean in my opinion all the 90's - 00's Nickelodean and Cartoon Network cartoons are better than all that Marvel and DC trash you have listed there but I realise that is probably a controversial opinion with how fervent those fan bases are but shit at least try some like:

Courage the Cowardly Dog

Grimm Adventures of Billy & Mandy

Marvellous Misadventures of Flapjack

Adventure Time

The Wonderful World of Gumball

Regular Show

Cow and Chicken

Angry Beavers

To name just a few, there was a huge thread recently which covers pretty much everything you should check out Here on asklemmy

theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1w ago

"Yo, lemme get 4 chicken wings fried hard as shit!"

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1w ago

100% education, harm reduction, support and regulation.

It would empower people to make smarter choices about what they consume and the safe ways and doses to consume and what effects to expect rather than scaremongering people with lies which causes experimentation.

Support people that have existing problems to make better choices with their life rather than turning them into "criminals" which then encourages further behaviour that damages society as a whole.

Regulate the substances so that people can know what they are buying is what it is meant to be so they aren't buying stuff cut with brick dust or plaster board from people in situations that put them at further risk.

And finally tax it and use that tax money to fund public services. Fund things that benefit society as a whole and benefits everyone else who don't choose to use these things.

Proper research that hasn't been fabricated to support the lies that are constantly pedalled has proved that all of these things are true and most of these "hard drugs" are safer and less addictive when done properly than alcohol is and that shit is legal. You can't just look at all the immediate effects either no one is taking MDMA and then going out and fighting or beating their significant other yet alcohol is the fuel for a very large percentage of anti social behaviour and domestic abuse. Women in particular suffer a massive amount at the hands of predominantly men under the influence of alcohol but I'm meant to believe these cunts when they tell me weed or MDMA is "bad"

But I digress, I could rant on this for ages!

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Not really, a system that employs first past the post and a house of fucking lords that is based on blood lines is it really the closest approximation of the will of the people?

I couldn't care less about the tobacco industry I'm arguing for the peoples right to choose what they do with their own bodies, there is a big difference but cool. Have a good day :)

theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Yeh that is fair, I concede that saying "always" is not accurate.

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Ah did they not do it in the end, I knew they were trying to but never heard any more about it so didn't know if it went through.

We will see, as you say the problem is tobacco companies have a lot of money, I just don't wish to see prohibition under the guise of public health, prohibition is always a tool of oppression and not in peoples interest. I'd rather see an outright ban in public places to actually benefit public health :)

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Yes, I agree, but outright prohibition is not the solution. Ban public smoking fine but outright prohibition is just more social control under the guise of "protecting" people just like how this age verification bullshit is "protecting the kids"

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

No you didn't, you gave an example of regulation not prohibition and regulation can work because it still gives people the freedom of choice but helps to regulate things within areas that are problems for society, like your example.

Again you seem to think you can just speak on behalf of millions of people. I don't think cocaine is worth the effort personally but that doesn't mean there isn't a massive global black market for it.

You seem to be missing my point entirely, I'm not sure if intentionally just to try and support your naive point of view. The point is prohibition is always bad because it is used as a form of social control, the reason that pretty much all drugs are outlawed recreationally is because in the past the unwashed masses have enjoyed them for different reasons and therefore the "state" have implemented laws against these things as a form of social control.

To go along with that they fill the populous full of lies to try and support their position and to try and turn the people against each other and create dissent amongst people and thus creating things like class wars to keep them distracted. If governments truely had the best interests of the populous at heart then they would regulate substances properly and supply people with correct and factual data to allow people to make clear and informed decisions about what they choose to consume instead of running bullshit campaigns like the infamous reefer madness or scaremongering people into thinking they will instantly be addicted or die whilst also pedalling far more harmful and addictive substances alongside.

Regulation also takes away even more dangers to society because people can now purchase properly manufactured substances that have been made within an environment that promotes safety through regulation rather than buying something that has been cut with brick dust or plaster board powder to maximise profits in a non regulated black market.

Regulation also applies to the companies selling the products, although part of the problem with tobacco companies massive influence is the bullshit system that is capitalism but that is another subject entirely.

These are just a few examples, I haven't even touched upon the increased revenue for society as a whole due to taxing these products and the knock on positive effects of that or how proper systems of education and care can help prevent so many issues across the spectrum.

Prohibition under the guise of helping people or protecting kids is always a move to oppress people and is never a positive thing for society as a whole, just look at the bullshit that is this push for age verification under the guise of "protecting the kids" that is going on at the moment. I think you need to take a step back and really assess what is going on behind decisions like this because it is more a move towards "monarchy" or total control of a populous and freedoms ever will be like you seem to think.

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Then you under estimate people entirely! Take weed as an example which is drastically less addictive than nicotine and yet there is a thriving black market for that to the point that people in some Asian countries risk (and recently did get) execution to supply it to people.

To say there are still nicotine products available too doesn't really address it either. As an ex smoker myself I would take a cigarette over any of the other nicotine products available, any day of the week. It doesn't matter that most people hate the taste or smell or whatever, there will still be plenty of people that also prefer it regardless of your thoughts about it. Also it is called the "tobacco and capes bill" which implies it isn't just traditional cigarettes but it also doesn't make it clear either way

Add on top of that why should a government be dictating what people put into their bodies, people should have the right to buy and consume whatever they like. Fair enough ban its use in public so it isn't actively effecting anyone else but what people do in their own homes is their own choice.

If you want to try the strain and cost to healthcare services argument as well then why aren't you banning alcohol too as that is one of the most problematic substances in the world in terms of being the most addictive and most physically damaging to people. So that argument is dead in the water.

Banning sale at certain times is very different from an outright ban as well. That still allows people to make the choice they want regarding what they want to consume, they just have to get it according to a schedule which, as you say, does help in terms of anti social behaviour at the like if people who ate already fucked up can't get more to continue on down that road.

All this is is another authoritarian move to dictate what people can and can't do with their own lives and own bodies under the guise of "helping people" or "helping society" all the while things like alcohol which is statistically one of the worst substances out there is allowed because it is more socially acceptable.

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Because prohibition has a history of working really well and doesn't at all create black markets that are far worse for peoples health /s

theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Oh, shame, but thanks for the info!

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Have they added support for any watches yet? I have had my eye in this for ages as I'd love to try it but haven't checked in a while!

theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

I don't currently have a copy, but after talking about it today I need to find one and watch it again too!

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Fuck yeh!

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Whilst I watched a shit load of Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network in those days which was full of shorts too my memory of those isn't as good unfortunately but I'll keep an eye out for that post in the future in the hopes of some nostalgia!

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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com 2w ago

Yeh I wasn't sure on that suggestion but then you had the likes of Courage, Billy and Mandy, Invader Zim etc so thought it was worth a punt.

I feel like I have more rattling around in my head SK if I think of any more over the day I'll reply again. I grew up on that era of cartoons and have so many fond memories of them!

Do you have Rugrats in there, I feel like that is an obvious choice I can't see